## Metadata author:: [[@Hidden Brain]] publish_date:: reviewed_date:: ## Highlights - Speaker 1: Well, where I'd want to get with the doctor is just the ability, even if you're relatively briefly staying with each patient, actually be able to stay just with that patient. So, a case study I uncovered when actually after the book came out was of two different groups at the same elite level residency and it was the same specialty of high specialties were elite level doctors. One group had a culture of email, so Hey, I need something. Here's a question. What about this patient, and they're expected the constantly available by email. The other group consolidated that type of administrative or logistical conversations to set meetings. Okay, we have these rounds. We have these meetings, and what the doctor from that hospital told me is that they had a really hard time keeping people in that first group where in the second group, people were much happier. So deep work doesn't necessarily mean I could sit, you know, half a day and just think about this one patient, but just the ability to walk into a room and just think about that patient and not have to see 16 emails as you walk into the next room and have that eating away at your attention that could really make a big difference. [(Time 0:11:36)](https://www.airr.io/quote/63bf41317f205624b6b8df2e) - Speaker 1: to. I'm very organized with my time. I worked during very set hours during the day and I plan out the day like a chess player moving the pieces around. This is what I'm gonna work on when I I don't let my mood dictate how my day unfolds. And then three I've made myself very comfortable with annoying people. Bad at email, I have just set the expectations that I'm just not available a lot. I'm not someone that you can expect a quick answer from, and that also causes some trouble, of course. But all this adds up to allowing me to regularly have long portions of many of my days focused on deeper thinking. Speaker 0: I [(Time 0:19:27)](https://www.airr.io/quote/63bf41397f205624b6b8e1bb) - Speaker 0: I understand you have a fairly structured approach to shutting down at the end of the day of making sure that the tasks that remain unfinished don't bleed into your evening and your family life. Speaker 1: I have an actual ritual I do at the end of each workday, where it pretty systematically, I'll look at my weekly plan. I'll look at my task, clicks. I'll look at my calendar, make sure that nothing is left hanging, and then I'll do a little shutdown mantra. You'll say an actual phrase. That means I'm now done work for the day. Speaker 0: What's the phrase that you tell yourself For the end of the day? Speaker 1: I used to be embarrassed to admit the phrase was scheduled shutdown complete, but I now have this this small but but strong fan group that used that exact same phrase proudly. So So now I'm willing to admit it's scheduled shutdown complete. Speaker 0: Do you say this with [(Time 0:21:32)](https://www.airr.io/quote/63bf44817f205624b6b9586a)